When she mentioned the saying her dad use to say I thought it would make a fun scroll saw pattern. I probably did not do justice to the memory of Charles but if he is reading this from above I hope he has a smile on his face. Thanks Ginger for the quote and nice family story.
DVD and the 2013 update DVD at this link. DVD #1 is $20 and contains over 1,100 patterns. The 2013 update DVD is $7.50 and has another 178 patterns.